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Interest in private equity remains high. In a recent survey of institutional asset owners that we conducted, nearly 60% said they expect to have more exposure to the private equity market a decade from now (with almost 50% saying they’ll have higher or much higher exposure to private assets more broadly). That said, private equity has faced a few challenges recently, including slower distributions and fewer IPOs. To offer some perspective on the market environment, Head of Multi-Asset Strategy Adam Berger and Head of Late-Stage Growth Matt Witheiler discussed the path to improved liquidity, the impact of higher interest rates, opportunities in the late-stage space, and the impact of AI.
Adam: Let’s start with a question on many asset owners’ minds: What's happened to private equity distributions over the last couple of years?
Matt: Sure, for some context, Figure 1 shows private equity capital call amounts in dark blue and distributions in light blue. Ideally, the light-blue bars would be bigger than the dark-blue bars, indicating the industry is returning more money than it is deploying. But the past couple of years, we’ve seen the reverse, and the key driver of that change is that since the capital boom of 2020 and 2021, the three primary paths to liquidity for private companies have dried up. Strategic M&A slowed as a result of a more hawkish US government stance on deals. Financial-sponsor M&A declined as leverage became more expensive, making it harder to underwrite the investments. And finally, the IPO market effectively closed for a variety of reasons, including investors’ preference for large companies over small ones, a cloudy interest-rate outlook, and uncertainty in the run-up to the recent US election.
Figure 1
Adam: Do you expect the IPO market to open up in 2025?
Matt: Yes, I think US-listed IPO activity could expand this year and maybe even double the level it reached in 2024. A key reason for this is that we’ve moved past election-year uncertainty. Figure 2 shows that in the year following an election, IPO volumes are 47% higher on average than in an election year and 24% higher than in other years.
Figure 2
Additionally, we’ve looked back at 50 years of IPOs in the US and found that when issuance volumes have fallen well below the mean, they have typically done so for one to three years before rising again. And 2024 was the third year in this latest period of depressed IPO activity. More anecdotally, we’re also seeing a growing number of reports in the press about companies planning an IPO, which adds to our confidence.
The wildcard in all of this is, obviously, the current US administration’s policy choices with respect to tariffs. The same policy decisions that have weighed on the US public market year to date will likely weigh on new issuance volumes. This runs the risk of delaying IPO exits even further, but, in our opinion, it’s not a matter of if they come back but when.
Adam: Another issue that’s been on the minds of private equity investors is the rise in interest rates. Does this shift change the way private equity investors should think about the opportunity set and prospective returns?
Matt: I think it does for strategies that tend to employ more leverage and therefore have more direct exposure to interest rates — buyout funds, for example. For strategies that lean heavily on leverage, I would expect returns to look quite different going forward. On the other side of the strategy spectrum, you have areas like venture capital and late-stage growth that are focused on tapping into rapid growth in businesses benefitting from technology-led disruption and are less likely to rely on leverage. Put another way, if you're investing in a company that's growing 50% or 100% a year, then it probably matters less to the fundamental returns of the strategy whether interest rates are at 3% or 4% or 5%. (Read more on this topic in our recent article, “No more free lunch: Impact of higher interest rates on private equity.”)
Adam: In your research, you’ve highlighted the tendency for private companies to stay private longer and the impact that has had on the late-stage venture capital space. Can you talk about that trend and how it has shaped the opportunity set?
Matt: More than a decade ago, we observed that companies were staying private longer for a variety of reasons, from the increased regulatory burden on public companies to evidence of the strong post-IPO performance of more mature businesses. As companies stay private longer, they are more likely to go through their hyper-growth phase while they are still in the private market, rather than when they’ve entered the public small-cap space, and they will tend to be larger when they do IPO. We can see the effect of this trend in the declining number of small-cap companies with a market cap below $1 billion (Figure 3).
Figure 3
The result is that late-stage growth — meaning companies that are about one to four years from an exit event and seeking capital to accelerate growth — is a very different opportunity set from traditional venture capital. Companies may tend to be more mature and relatively derisked, for example. This trend may allow for a different return profile from an investment strategy standpoint, with less need for a “swing for the fences” approach where just a couple of the holdings drive results. Managers may be able to take a more balanced approach based on deep research and strong relationships with companies that could be the next generation of public-market winners. The late-stage category also generally doesn't require leverage, as noted earlier.
Adam: Is the health of the IPO market, or of equity markets in general, more important in the late-stage space, given that these are the companies closest to going public?
Matt: IPOs are one avenue for liquidity in the late-stage market, but when IPO activity is below normal, there are others, including secondary sales and M&A. When it comes to returns, I actually think a more important factor is the competitive landscape. Figure 4 illustrates the point: The private market saw a period of irrational exuberance in 2020 and 2021, which pushed the supply of capital in the late-stage market (blue bars) to a level that far outstripped the demand for it (blue line) and sent valuations soaring.
Figure 4
Today, that dynamic has flipped, with demand for capital more than twice the supply as shown in the chart. With less capital chasing each deal in the late-stage market, there are more opportunities to invest at favorable valuations. So yes, the IPO market does matter, but what probably matters more is how much competitive pressure there is to invest in these assets.
Adam: Along with that improvement in valuations, why do you think the private equity market is attractive today?
Matt: One key reason is that the market is only getting bigger, and certainly in the late-stage space. As we show in Figure 5, 87% of US companies with over $100 million of revenue are private companies. That is a dramatic shift over the last 20 years, and I don’t think it will unwind anytime soon. If anything, it will likely accelerate. There are simply more opportunities to pursue outsized returns as private companies go through their hypergrowth phase before going public.
Figure 5
Adam: You mentioned technology disruption earlier. What's your perspective on AI?
Matt: Broadly speaking, this tech-led disruption is impacting all sectors of the economy. What historically would have only been a software play is now a health care play, a financial services play, and a real estate play. So, from a private-market perspective, we're quite bullish on AI.
But we're also very cognizant that we're in the early days of this technology. Looking back at previous technology transformations — whether it's the PC, mobile technology, the internet, or cloud computing — the early winners were often not the long-term winners, which is why people are no longer browsing the web using Netscape or Lycos. With that in mind, we’re taking a thoughtful, very deliberate approach as we work to identify the private companies best positioned for the long term.
Adam: One last question that some clients have posed recently: With the improvement in data transparency in private markets, does the liquidity premium still exist?
Matt: While it’s true that the data may be more accessible, I would argue that the ability to act on that data is still highly inaccessible. Anyone may be able to find accurate information about what a private company is doing in the marketplace, but that doesn’t mean they can make a call to the CEO of that company and demand to make an investment. Tapping into these opportunities requires deep relationships and an ability to convince companies that your investment has a value-add. That's a major difference from the public market and is ultimately a contributor to the potential for a private market liquidity premium.
Adam: Let me offer a few closing thoughts on private equity allocations.
Don’t assume every illiquid asset will earn an illiquidity premium — I often think about this point in the context of the leveraged buyout space, where the idea is to take a public company private (paying a control premium) and return it back to the market (at a public valuation). In that scenario, there are many ways for a manager to add value, including through better management or financial engineering, but it’s not a given that there will be an illiquidity premium.
Private investments may require a different asset allocation approach than public investments — When developing multi-asset portfolios, we're comfortable using optimization and capital market assumptions to determine allocations to stocks, bonds, and other liquid assets. But we think private investments require a different approach, as we explain here.
Vintage-year diversification matters — Among managers and allocators, I think it’s generally agreed that having a consistent allocation to this asset class through time is important. That means allocating across vintage years with a structured approach that avoids being forced out of the market because the portfolio’s private equity exposure has grown above target.
Manager selection may outweigh strategy selection — Given the breadth of the private equity market and the skills required to navigate it, we tend to see significant dispersion in manager returns. So, finding a manager who warrants high conviction may be more important than trying to map to specific strategies or having specific private equity strategy goals in a portfolio.
Notwithstanding (and perhaps because of) these challenges, there may be attractive opportunities in private equity today — There's a great deal of inefficiency in the private market and there are strong managers with differentiated skill sets. Today, I think the focus should be on niche strategies, a global opportunity set, and non-consensus areas or areas of innovation where managers may have an edge.
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